Good post, I'm guilty of putting too much effort in being friends with JW's when in just because they were in and in good standing. Pretty superficial of me and I suffered because. Good thing I kept in touch with my childhood friends that I'm getting closer to again now that I'm out.
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Friends of All Sorts....
by wisdomfrombelow inwhen i hear people say that you can't keep your jw friends when you leave i can understand why they say that.
however, i can also see how that is a generalization.
i remember my life growing up as a jw and having good friends who were jewish and catholic and protestant and buddhist and hindu and muslim and atheists.
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Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Brother Jeramy inallow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
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Babygirl Bro. Jeramy is long gone, he hasn't posted in months..
Wanted to add what I regret is in investing in conditional JW friendships, I should of known better.
Big waste of time and was unnecessary drama and stress, completely futile.
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Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Brother Jeramy inallow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
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Totally agree Stirred :
It's a journey. Keep all the loving, supportive, ethical principles and question /distance yourself from those that cause harm, destruction, pain. There are other ways to be "in service". My family is more involved with charities now and meeting many wonderful people.....
Tried to go back over the summer, ended up making me ill at the RC assembly then a last ditch effort at supper with an elder friend couple and decided it was over. Went to an SDA church the week after and saw the problems there as well.
Then all the recent things like the March 15 WT, the RC, reading COC ISOCF and COaC plus reading up on Arne Jordly site and ordering his commentaries I no longer have any use for the GB. I guess I had to wean off gradually. Last time I spoke with Bro.Jeramy he wasthinking of DA'ing and going to an orthodox church with some friends.
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Are you angry for having been a JW?
by Half banana ini remember seeing the ex-jws parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate.
we were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness.
just dont look at them was the standard response to their unwelcome presence..
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I haven't read all the previous posts but my take is that the org is a 10-15 year deal, did my time, gained some Bible knowledge and benefited from the high moral standards ( values ) which I was always naturally drawn to anyways. Helped me to break from addictions and questionable business practices thereby avoiding legal troubles. But the constant control and intrusion into my privacy led me to burn out. Back then I went along and acted as a yes man extrovert for a while to gain a certain measure of freedom but went against my nature and wore me down to a shadow of how I really was / am. Happy to now be completely out and faded. If anything I'm angry at myself for being such a pushover at times and if it were to do over again would of stood up for myself more.
If you don't run your own life somebody else will !
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What The Hell Couples
by Clambake inpenny and leonard.
billy bob thorton and anglie jolie.
lyle lovett / julia roberts.
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I know of a couple that have been married for over 15+ years guy was in his mid twenties she was in her late forties at best back then maybe even fifty. Pretty decent shape for her age but man did she not age well. Two things come to mind, if she would of been level headed and honest with him she should of just told the guy thanks for the compliment but look for someone your age right ? He himself being a handsome young man, bethel material at the time he had the cream of the crop to choose from. I sure wouldn't want to be in his shoes today. Lots of young buck / older cougar couples up this way, wonder what it is. You do see more young guy / older woman couples then the old guy with cute young thing deal, in the org that is. Strange place indeed, they were led to believe that the system would only last a few more years and then everyone would be young again.. I would never subject a woman to such an age difference, just not cool. +5 or -10 max in my case anything more no way no thanks. -
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True believers never save their money
by stillin init's an article of faith.
either god is going to save them or he is not.
since one local elder proudly told me that he never saved a nickel until just before his retirement, i've given this subject some thought.. savers are worldly..
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Stillin, yes you are right I have become sort of a gold bug and am now better than where I was before the loss. I must say I got out a month before the tech crash so that was a good move there. I sold Visa too quick though and watched it go up and up and up. So I kinda learnt going both ways. You're also right it can never be all green, I mentioned Jesse Livermore above, even he lost it all. Best is to be reasonable and avoid unhealthy greed.
BTW good post bro thanks.
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True believers never save their money
by stillin init's an article of faith.
either god is going to save them or he is not.
since one local elder proudly told me that he never saved a nickel until just before his retirement, i've given this subject some thought.. savers are worldly..
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During the financial crisis the PO in my congo made light of the media's portrayal of brokers holding their heads in disbelief off of the trading room floors, going so far as to imitate their postures from the platform. Back then I had put my trust in a local well known investment firm for my privately built up retirement fund with the belief that they would handle my investment account better than I ever could thereby freeing me up to better run my business and have more time for the twoof. At least that was the idea but boy was I ever wrong : took a 40% hit, went into severe depression on account of my stupidity for putting my trust in others and not thinking for myself and being better informed. Life lesson that took me years to recover from. They say your first investment loss is usually your best to learn from, is so true. Actually I think it's a Jesse Livermore quote.
When that elder gave his parts with the head holding mimic saying that JW's were not so dumb as to invest and were protected it drew nodding heads from nearly the whole congregation, even the union types that have managed accounts. Well I knew then and there that I had been fooled and also drew very little sympathy from anyone on my losses. I also found out that money is often a very emotional subject with people made even more so amongst JW's where everyone in the hall knows about each other's assets in jealousy and envy. I heard through the grapevine that I had become fodder for gossip as well. Never went back to that hall after that embarrassing little scenario in my life..
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New documentary on JWs made by an ex-JW in Canada(Quebec) in french
by yalbmert99 inhi, for those who can understand french, on sept.2 in canada(quebec) on channel tva aired a documentary on jws made by an ex-jw, jean-sebastien lozeau.
it is now on youtube, but it will probably be deleted soon.
so watch it before it dissappears.
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OK super merci je vais regarder ça toute à l'heure !
Thanks this is great ! Hey anyone else in the greater Montreal area shoot me a PM !
Très apprécié !
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I see it differently
by John Aquila in15 years ago ceo scott mcnealy said those famous words; you have zero privacy anyway.
everyone has a phone with a camera.
every day someone leaks a sex video.
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Good stuff John ! The society's worst nightmare, the internet. Thank-you Ray Franz and Don Cameron !
Just sent a .pdf of ISOCF to my shop neighbor. His wife went to a meeting once, her first and last in the late seventies when she was single. So insulted was she that she stopped the study right then and there and never went back. What got her upset was the bashing of other religions and the superiority complex.
I sent them COC earlier this summer and she loved it. It gave her closure as to what happened back then when she got involved.
Good one Millie210, I was thinking about that Daniel quote myself a few days ago !
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What woke you up?
by Israel Ricky Gonzales inin march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.
so what woke me up?
an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.
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Now that's romance Lisa Rose, love it ! Happy for you sis !